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Hopefully, if we have the opportunity to come out of this the way I truly hope, stronger, and united, you will come to find that Ferre is really a compassionate and dedicated soul. The ends don't always justify the means, but that's up to us, let us work together now to build bridges.
Appology accepted merlin. I was just basing my response on Exodus 30:33. If there is a better explanation to it then i'm all ears. I just took it for face value. I really do hope that there is a way to work together to open the eyes of the christian communtiy who still thinks MJ is "devil weed". This is the problem i face in my home as well as my church. It's by far the hardest topic to talk about to any church member. They automatically look at you different and get very uncompfortable(sp) <span class='smallblacktext'>[ Edited Thu Feb 02 2006, 06:48AM ]</span>
Me too I offer my apologies to all who feel insulted by my remarks. brother Brian has been wording exactly what I mean in a far better wording, due to the fact that he is native english speaking, which I'm not and my translations come out as more 'direct' sentences than normally is used in a diplomatic approach.
There is nothing much that I could add to what Brother Brian has not already explained in his posts, the time has come that we start to work together and unite forces to end the misery caused by the war on Cannabis.
It is unfortunate that you insist on using insulting and derogatory comments towards the supporters of CforC. I only had time to respond to a few posts this morning and I saved your response offline and have been working on it as I have had time throughout the day. You have my assurances that I am not avoiding talking to you - after all, I did respond to your original post which should be evident t that I am not avoiding you.
Again, I do not fight and therefore wear no battledress, perhaps you would consider taking off yours, since you have stated that you have no wish to fight.
My reply to you will be posted when it is finished. I thank you for your continued patience.
love and peace, -jini c4cadmin
Ferre wrote ... Funny how reply to people who lick your boots but you avoid to talk to me Jini, why is that?
And yes, this IS a passionate attempt to get some cooperation going, please take off your battle dress and start communicating.
Jini, lets put aside previous posts, and start fresh, for I fear that if we continue to backtrack and continualy reference prior posts we will make no forward progress, so lets not go down that path. You have my appologies, and that of Ferre's for any brass or ill chosen words that may have been spoken, now to the future...
More specifically, what is your planned future for this website? If it infact involves a shift in the current focus from things like the war on drugs to the research and debate of cannabis' role in Christianity, then how can Ferre and I help you? If this is not your plan, would you consider selling the domain so that someone like myself would be able to erect such a site?
If you are busy, as you mentioned, with work, children, etc., perhaps we can come to some sort of an arrangement whereby someone like myself who is devoted to the research of cannabis in all of religion could buy the domain, re-design and maintain it as a resource for Christians looking for a place to find information on cannabis in their religion/history. You would of course retain status and privelidges of administrator, and we can avoid linking directly the THC Ministry or other churches, and link to them as you mentioned on a 'links to friends' page. This is just a thought. <span class='smallblacktext'>[ Edited Thu Feb 02 2006, 08:52AM ]</span>
Joined: Tue Aug 09 2005, 05:38 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 10
It'd be simpler for you to set up a site as you suggest, then have C4C link to it.
If you're seriously looking to buy another URL (why? is not clear) I'm about ready to let the cantheism.org links expire. I'm not interested in "selling" them so much as just transferring them to good hands. Interested?
The value of the domain lies in the publicity it has already received, the issue at hand is that of taking it to the next level. I could easily start another site with an almost identical domain, but this community already has a small member base and as Jini mentioned has been brought up in the news a few times. I would simply like to see the site go to the next level. Linking to sites and info on reform does little in the form of inspiring and informing others any more then Google does. Hosting, presenting, and discussing information on the other hand can inspire and encourage others to join the reform effort.
These are the reasons we'd all like to see CfC actually start moving forward. I'm not in need or in the market for another domain, but merely suggest that since the site already has some traffic and notoriety that I would be willing to help take it to the next level, going so far as to actually buy the name and do the redesign.
If Jini is not interesting in changing pace, is happy with 150 members and utterly empty forums, thats fine by me, she need only say so and I'll leave. I simply share Ferre's view that there is great potential here and would like to see that potential be reached. <span class='smallblacktext'>[ Edited Thu Feb 02 2006, 09:28AM ]</span>
Joined: Tue Aug 09 2005, 05:38 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 10
This publicity you covet was accomplished without whatever changes you wish to implement. Perhaps your approach would do better to adopt her style rather than vice versa.
Why not simply fill those "empty forums" with the information you seek to disseminate? There must be something else. What's the advantage in your redesign?
When the site first launched, it may have gotten a little publicity, its obvious to see it has since died. I merely hoped the site could finally become active and move forward to help educate people. Any and all publicity was merely for the sake of the domain name, as there is no real original content, or discussion here, and I assure you has nothing to due with the site's 'style'. The proof is in the pudding, all this time in operation, all the publicity and 'hundreds of radio interviews' and only 150 members to show for it. You yourself are one of the first members and yet, this is forum is so devoid of life this is the only thread you've posted in.
I, aside from my own church, am a member of THC Ministry, which with close to 3000 members already has a wealth of information and active discussion. There are many Christian members who could benefit from a site that specifically aimed at cannabis in Christianity and were hoping this would be such a place. In the beginning Ferre linked to this site and it undoubtedly led to many hits for the site, however it has failed to change or grow in anyway and its simply a shame.
The information is not worth putting in these forums, as when someone visits and sees the homepage, if their intention has anything to do with learning of cannabis and its role in Christianity they undoubtedly leave without registering to see these empty forums as no such information exists here. Aside from a nice domain name this site offers little more then links to already well publicized information. Thats why these forums are empty, because this site isn't living up to its domain name.
I can appreciate that you folks are happy with what you have going on. I wish you all the best, and hope you know that anyone who wishes to use cannabis in their spirituality certainly has a friend in me, and I'm sure the THC Ministry as well.
I'll leave you all now to let you continue to run the site as you wish, but if at any time in the future you wish to get a helping hand in turning this site into more then an e-paper weight, just send me a note.
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